Priya Vulchi and Winona Guo: What it takes to be racially literate

Recorded atNovember 01, 2017
EventTEDWomen 2017
Duration (min:sec)12:03
Video TypeTED Stage Talk
Words per minute194.38 fast
Readability (FK)53.75 medium
SpeakerPriya Vulchi and Winona Guo

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Over the last year, Priya Vulchi and Winona Guo traveled to all 50 US states, collecting personal stories about race and intersectionality. Now they're on a mission to equip every American with the tools to understand, navigate and improve a world structured by racial division. In a dynamic talk, Vulchi and Guo pair the personal stories they've collected with research and statistics to reveal two fundamental gaps in our racial literacy -- and how we can overcome them.

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100:12 Priya Vulchi: Four years ago, we really thought we understood racism.
200:16 Just like many of you here today, we had experienced and heard stories
300:20 about race, about prejudice, discrimination and stereotyping
400:24 and we were like, "We get it, racism, we got it, we got it."
500:28 But we weren't even close.
600:32 Winona Guo: So we decided that we had to listen and learn more.
700:35 We talked to as many random people as we could
800:37 and collected hundreds of personal stories about race,
900:40 stories that revealed how racial injustice is a nationwide epidemic
1000:45 that we ourselves spread
1100:47 and now can't seem to recognize or get rid of.
1200:50 PV: We're not there yet.
1300:51 Today, we are here to raise our standards of racial literacy,
1400:56 to redefine what it means to be racially literate.
1501:00 WG: We want everywhere across the United States
1601:03 for our youngest and future generations to grow up equipped
1701:06 with the tools to understand, navigate and improve
1801:09 a world structured by racial division.
1901:12 We want us all to imagine the community as a place
2001:15 where we not only feel proud of our own backgrounds,
2101:18 but can also invest in others' experiences as if they were our own.
2201:23 PV: We just graduated from high school this past June.
2301:27 WG: And you'd think --
2401:28 (Applause)
2501:31 And you'd think after 12 years
2601:34 somebody in or out of the classroom would have helped us understand --
2701:37 PV: At a basic level at least --
2801:39 WG: The society we live in.
2901:41 PV: The truth for almost all our classmates is that they don't.
3001:45 WG: In communities around our country, so many of which are racially divided,
3101:50 PV: If you don't go searching for an education about race,
3201:53 for racial literacy --
3301:54 WG: You won't get it.
3401:56 It won't just come to you.
3501:57 PV: Even when we did have conversations about race,
3602:00 our understanding was always superficial.
3702:03 We realized that there are two big gaps
3802:06 in our racial literacy.
3902:08 WG: First, the heart gap:
4002:11 an inability to understand each of our experiences,
4102:15 to fiercely and unapologetically be compassionate beyond lip service.
4202:22 PV: And second, the mind gap:
4302:25 an inability to understand the larger, systemic ways in which racism operates.
4402:32 WG: First, the heart gap.
4502:35 To be fair, race did pop up a few times in school, growing up.
4602:39 We all defend our social justice education
4702:41 because we learned about Martin Luther King Jr.
4802:44 and Harriet Tubman and Rosa Parks.
4902:47 But even in all of those conversations,
5002:49 race always felt outdated, like,
5102:52 "Yes, slavery, that happened once upon a time,
5202:55 but why does it really matter now?"
5302:58 As a result, we didn't really care.
5403:02 But what if our teacher introduced a story from the present day,
5503:06 for example, how Treniya told us in Pittsburgh that --
5603:10 PV: "My sister was scrolling through Facebook and typed in our last name.
5703:13 This white guy popped up,
5803:15 and we found out that his great-great-grandfather owned slaves
5903:19 and my great-great- great-grandmother was one of them.
6003:23 My last name -- it's not who I am.
6103:26 We've been living under a white man's name.
6203:28 If slavery didn't happen, who would I even be?"
6303:32 WG: Now it feels relevant, immediate,
6403:35 because the connection to slavery's lasting legacy today is made clear, right?
6503:40 Or what would happen is our teacher would throw out these cold statistics.
6603:43 You've probably seen this one before in news headlines.
6703:46 PV: African-Americans are incarcerated
6803:48 more than five times the rate of white people.
6903:51 WG: Now consider Ronnie, in Seattle.
7003:55 PV: "My father means everything to me.
7103:57 He's all I've got, I don't know my mother.
7204:00 My father's currently being wrongly incarcerated for 12 years.
7304:04 I've got a daughter, and I try to be that same fatherly figure for her:
7404:08 always involved in everything she does, it might even be annoying at some points.
7504:13 But I'm afraid I'll go missing in her life
7604:16 just like my father did in mine."
7704:20 WG: Throwing out just the statistic, just the facts alone,
7804:24 disconnected from real humans,
7904:26 can lead to dangerously incomplete understanding of those facts.
8004:30 It fails to recognize that for many people who don't understand racism
8104:33 the problem is not a lack of knowledge
8204:35 to talk about the pain of white supremacy and oppression,
8304:39 it's that they don't recognize that that pain exists at all.
8404:43 They don't recognize the human beings that are being affected,
8504:46 and they don't feel enough to care.
8604:49 PV: Second, the mind gap.
8704:51 We can't ignore the stats, either.
8804:54 We can't truly grasp Ronnie's situation
8904:57 without understanding how things like unjust laws and biased policing
9005:01 systematic racism has created
9105:04 the disproportionate incarceration rates over time.
9205:07 Or like how in Honolulu,
9305:09 the large prison population of native Hawaiians like Kimmy
9405:13 is heavily influenced by the island's long history
9505:16 with US colonialization,
9605:18 its impact passing down through generations to today.
9705:21 For us, sometimes we would talk
9805:23 about people's personal, unique experiences in the classroom.
9905:27 Stuff like, how Justin once told us --
10005:30 WG: "I've been working on psychologically reclaiming my place in this city.
10105:34 Because for me, my Chicago isn't the nice architecture downtown,
10205:38 it's not the North Side.
10305:40 My Chicago is the orange line, the pink line, the working immigrant class
10405:45 going on the train."
10505:47 PV: And while we might have acknowledged his personal experience,
10605:51 we wouldn't have talked about how redlining
10705:53 and the legalized segregation of our past
10805:55 created the racially divided neighborhoods we live in today.
10905:59 We wouldn't have completely understood
11006:01 how racism is embedded in the framework of everything around us,
11106:05 because we would stay narrowly focused on people's isolated experiences.
11206:10 Another example, Sandra in DC once told us:
11306:14 WG: "When I'm with my Korean family, I know how to move with them.
11406:18 I know what to do in order to have them feel like I care about them.
11506:21 And making and sharing food
11606:23 is one of the most fundamental ways of showing love.
11706:27 When I'm with my partner who's not Korean, however,
11806:30 we've had to grapple with the fact
11906:31 that I'm very food-centric and he's just not.
12006:34 One time he said that he didn't want to be expected
12106:37 to make food for me,
12206:39 and I got really upset."
12306:40 PV: That might seem like a weird reaction,
12406:43 but only if we don't recognize how it's emblematic of something larger,
12506:47 something deeper.
12606:49 Intragenerational trauma.
12706:51 How in Sandra's family, widespread hunger and poverty
12806:54 existed as recently as Sandra's parents' generation
12906:57 and therefore impacts Sandra today.
13006:59 She experiences someone saying --
13107:01 WG: "I don't want to feed you."
13207:03 PV: As --
13307:04 WG: "I don't want to hug you."
13407:06 PV: And without her and her partner having that nuanced understanding
13507:09 of her reaction and the historical context behind it,
13607:12 it could easily lead to unnecessary fighting.
13707:14 That's why it's so important that we proactively --
13807:18 (Both speaking): Co-create --
13907:19 PV: A shared American culture
14007:21 that identifies and embraces the different values and norms
14107:25 within our diverse communities.
14207:28 WG: To be racially literate --
14307:30 PV: To understand who we are so that we can heal together --
14407:33 WG: We cannot neglect the heart --
14507:35 PV: Or the mind.
14607:37 So, with our hundreds of stories,
14707:39 we decided to publish a racial literacy textbook
14807:42 to bridge that gap between our hearts and minds.
14907:45 WG: Our last book, "The Classroom Index,"
15007:47 shares deeply personal stories.
15107:49 PV: And pairs those personal stories
15207:51 to the brilliant research of statisticians and scholars.
15307:54 WG: Every day, we are still blown away by people's experiences,
15407:59 by the complexity of our collective racial reality.
15508:02 PV: So today, we ask you --
15608:05 WG: Are you racially literate?
15708:07 Are you there yet?
15808:08 PV: Do you really understand the people around you,
15908:11 their stories, stories like these?
16008:14 It's not just knowing that Louise from Seattle
16108:17 survived Japanese American internment camps.
16208:20 It's knowing that, meanwhile,
16308:22 her husband was one of an estimated 33,000 Japanese Americans
16408:27 who fought for our country during the war,
16508:29 a country that was simultaneously interning their families.
16608:34 For most of us, those Japanese Americans both in camps and in service,
16708:39 now see their bravery, their resilience, their history forgotten.
16808:43 They've become only victims.
16908:45 PV: It's not just knowing that interracial marriages
17008:48 like Shermaine and Paul in DC exist,
17108:51 it's acknowledging that our society has been programmed for them to fail.
17208:55 That on their very first date someone shouted,
17308:58 "Why are you with that black whore?"
17409:00 That according to a Columbia study on cis straight relationships
17509:04 black is often equated with masculinity
17609:07 and Asian with femininity,
17709:09 leading more men to not value black women and to fetishize Asian women.
17809:14 Among black-white marriages in the year 2000,
17909:17 73 percent had a black husband and a white wife.
18009:21 Paul and Shermaine defy that statistic.
18109:24 Black is beautiful,
18209:26 but it takes a lot to believe so once society says otherwise.
18309:29 WG: It's not just knowing that white people like Lisa in Chicago
18409:33 have white privilege,
18509:34 it's reflecting consciously on the term whiteness and its history,
18609:38 knowing that whiteness can't be equated with American.
18709:42 It's knowing that Lisa can't forget her own personal family's history
18809:46 of Jewish oppression.
18909:48 That she can't forget how, growing up,
19009:50 she was called a dirty Jew with horns and tails.
19109:53 But Lisa knows she can pass as white
19209:55 so she benefits from huge systemic and interpersonal privileges,
19309:59 and so she spends every day
19410:00 grappling with ways that she can leverage that white privilege
19510:04 for social justice.
19610:05 For example, starting conversations with other people of privilege about race.
19710:10 Or shifting the power in her classroom to her students
19810:14 by learning to listen to their experiences of racism and poverty.
19910:19 PV: It's not just knowing that native languages are dying.
20010:22 It's appreciating how fluency in the Cherokee language,
20110:25 which really only less than 12,000 people speak today,
20210:28 is an act of survival, of preservation of culture and history.
20310:34 It's knowing how the nongendered Cherokee language
20410:37 enabled Ahyoka's acceptance as a trans woman
20510:40 in Tahlequah, Oklahoma.
20610:43 Her grandmother told her firmly a saying in Cherokee,
20710:46 "I don't tell me who you are,
20810:48 you tell me who you are.
20910:50 And that is who you are."
21010:52 WG: These are just parts of a few stories.
21110:55 There are approximately 323 million people in the United States.
21210:59 PV: And 7.4 billion people on the planet.
21311:02 WG: So we have a lot to listen to.
21411:03 PV: And a lot to learn.
21511:05 WG: We need to raise the bar.
21611:06 PV: Elevate our standards for racial literacy.
21711:09 Because without investing in an education that values --
21811:12 WG: Both the stories -- PV: And statistics --
21911:14 WG: The people -- PV: And the numbers --
22011:16 WG: The interpersonal -- PV: And the systemic --
22111:18 WG: There will always be a piece missing.
22211:20 PV: Today, so few of us understand each other.
22311:24 WG: We don't know how to communicate --
22411:26 PV: Live together -- WG: Love one another.
22511:28 We need to all work together to create a new national community.
22611:31 PV: A new shared culture of mutual suffering and celebration.
22711:35 WG: We need to each begin by learning in our own local communities,
22811:39 bridging the gaps between our own hearts and minds
22911:42 to become racially literate.
23011:43 PV: Once we all do, we will be that much closer
23111:46 to living in spaces and systems that fight and care equally for all of us.
23211:52 WG: Then, none of us will be able to remain distant.
23311:56 PV: We couldn't -- sorry, mom and dad, college can wait.
23411:59 WG: We're on a gap year before college, traveling to all 50 states
23512:02 collecting stories for our next book.
23612:04 PV: And we still have 23 states left to interview in.
23712:07 (Both) Let's all get to work.
23812:09 Thank you.
23912:10 (Applause)